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Visualization in anonymous mode ?

Loraine Guéguen
Hi,

I'd like to use the visualization in anonymous mode, but the visualize
icon on the dataset is not available in anonymous mode (although it
works fine when connected).
Is it possible to activate the dataset visualization in anonymous mode ?

Thanks,

Loraine

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Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: ++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/

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Re: Visualization in anonymous mode ?

Carl Eberhard
Hi, Loraine

At this time there is no way to activate visualizations for anonymous users. The logged-in user data is required by most visualizations for some features to work (e.g. saving visualizations, publishing, etc.). 

In the future, it might be possible to de-couple these systems and provide what your looking for on a case-by-case basis. Which visualization would you want to be available? Trackster, Charts, or a local/custom visualization?


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'd like to use the visualization in anonymous mode, but the visualize icon on the dataset is not available in anonymous mode (although it works fine when connected).
Is it possible to activate the dataset visualization in anonymous mode ?

Thanks,

Loraine

--
Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/

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Re: Visualization in anonymous mode ?

Loraine Guéguen
Hi Carl,

Thanks for your answer.
I need a tool to visualize a phyloxml file (like phyloviz). No need for saving or publishing, only to open the phyloxml file with a visualisator through Galaxy. It is not possible ?

Visualization, and also workflow, in anonymous mode would be useful to us in other cases in the future, typically for the reviewers to be able to test submitted tools or pipelines.

Loraine


Le 05/01/2015 15:54, Carl Eberhard a écrit :
Hi, Loraine

At this time there is no way to activate visualizations for anonymous users. The logged-in user data is required by most visualizations for some features to work (e.g. saving visualizations, publishing, etc.). 

In the future, it might be possible to de-couple these systems and provide what your looking for on a case-by-case basis. Which visualization would you want to be available? Trackster, Charts, or a local/custom visualization?


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'd like to use the visualization in anonymous mode, but the visualize icon on the dataset is not available in anonymous mode (although it works fine when connected).
Is it possible to activate the dataset visualization in anonymous mode ?

Thanks,

Loraine

--
Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/

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Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: ++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/


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Re: Visualization in anonymous mode ?

Carl Eberhard
Hi, Loraine

It isn't possible currently without modifying the code for your installation.

If you'd like I can provide a patch file that can be applied which will allow the visualization button (and the link to phyloviz) to be displayed for an anonymous user. This may, however, make it difficult to update at a later date and cause problems if the user tries to save or do user-related functions in the visualization. Let me know if you'd like that patch.

I don't have a good answer for your anonymous reviewer problem. If I understand correctly, allowing them to be anonymous would be much easier for them than logging in? 

In the long run we may be able to make a version of workflows and visualizations that can be used by anonymous users (they likely wouldn't be fully-featured). This is currently on our list here: https://trello.com/c/gja5TtwF. Please feel free to add thoughts, suggestions, and your vote for priority.

Thanks for the information,
Carl

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Carl,

Thanks for your answer.
I need a tool to visualize a phyloxml file (like phyloviz). No need for saving or publishing, only to open the phyloxml file with a visualisator through Galaxy. It is not possible ?

Visualization, and also workflow, in anonymous mode would be useful to us in other cases in the future, typically for the reviewers to be able to test submitted tools or pipelines.

Loraine


Le 05/01/2015 15:54, Carl Eberhard a écrit :
Hi, Loraine

At this time there is no way to activate visualizations for anonymous users. The logged-in user data is required by most visualizations for some features to work (e.g. saving visualizations, publishing, etc.). 

In the future, it might be possible to de-couple these systems and provide what your looking for on a case-by-case basis. Which visualization would you want to be available? Trackster, Charts, or a local/custom visualization?


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'd like to use the visualization in anonymous mode, but the visualize icon on the dataset is not available in anonymous mode (although it works fine when connected).
Is it possible to activate the dataset visualization in anonymous mode ?

Thanks,

Loraine

--
Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/

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Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/



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Re: Visualization in anonymous mode ?

Loraine Guéguen
Hi Carl,

Sorry for answering so late: I was waiting to see if my solution was satisfying. It seems to be ; therefore I don't need the patch (thanks for you offer !).
To enable the phylogeny visualization (with Archaeopteryx), I added an html output dataset with links to open each tree created by the tool (through javascript). That works.

Nevertheless, I voted for the trello card, because basic workflow usage and visualization would be useful in anonymous mode.

To answer your question: to my mind, reviewers want to stay anonymous and don't want to create an account.

Thanks,

Loraine



Le 08/01/2015 16:50, Carl Eberhard a écrit :
Hi, Loraine

It isn't possible currently without modifying the code for your installation.

If you'd like I can provide a patch file that can be applied which will allow the visualization button (and the link to phyloviz) to be displayed for an anonymous user. This may, however, make it difficult to update at a later date and cause problems if the user tries to save or do user-related functions in the visualization. Let me know if you'd like that patch.

I don't have a good answer for your anonymous reviewer problem. If I understand correctly, allowing them to be anonymous would be much easier for them than logging in? 

In the long run we may be able to make a version of workflows and visualizations that can be used by anonymous users (they likely wouldn't be fully-featured). This is currently on our list here: https://trello.com/c/gja5TtwF. Please feel free to add thoughts, suggestions, and your vote for priority.

Thanks for the information,
Carl

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Carl,

Thanks for your answer.
I need a tool to visualize a phyloxml file (like phyloviz). No need for saving or publishing, only to open the phyloxml file with a visualisator through Galaxy. It is not possible ?

Visualization, and also workflow, in anonymous mode would be useful to us in other cases in the future, typically for the reviewers to be able to test submitted tools or pipelines.

Loraine


Le 05/01/2015 15:54, Carl Eberhard a écrit :
Hi, Loraine

At this time there is no way to activate visualizations for anonymous users. The logged-in user data is required by most visualizations for some features to work (e.g. saving visualizations, publishing, etc.). 

In the future, it might be possible to de-couple these systems and provide what your looking for on a case-by-case basis. Which visualization would you want to be available? Trackster, Charts, or a local/custom visualization?


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'd like to use the visualization in anonymous mode, but the visualize icon on the dataset is not available in anonymous mode (although it works fine when connected).
Is it possible to activate the dataset visualization in anonymous mode ?

Thanks,

Loraine

--
Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/

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Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/



-- 
Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: ++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/


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Re: Visualization in anonymous mode ?

Carl Eberhard
Hi Loraine,
I'm glad you solved it.

Understood on the reviewer question. We too would love to get something reliable, secure, and as-fully-as-possible for both anonymous and registered users.

Thanks again,
Carl


On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Carl,

Sorry for answering so late: I was waiting to see if my solution was satisfying. It seems to be ; therefore I don't need the patch (thanks for you offer !).
To enable the phylogeny visualization (with Archaeopteryx), I added an html output dataset with links to open each tree created by the tool (through javascript). That works.

Nevertheless, I voted for the trello card, because basic workflow usage and visualization would be useful in anonymous mode.

To answer your question: to my mind, reviewers want to stay anonymous and don't want to create an account.

Thanks,

Loraine




Le 08/01/2015 16:50, Carl Eberhard a écrit :
Hi, Loraine

It isn't possible currently without modifying the code for your installation.

If you'd like I can provide a patch file that can be applied which will allow the visualization button (and the link to phyloviz) to be displayed for an anonymous user. This may, however, make it difficult to update at a later date and cause problems if the user tries to save or do user-related functions in the visualization. Let me know if you'd like that patch.

I don't have a good answer for your anonymous reviewer problem. If I understand correctly, allowing them to be anonymous would be much easier for them than logging in? 

In the long run we may be able to make a version of workflows and visualizations that can be used by anonymous users (they likely wouldn't be fully-featured). This is currently on our list here: https://trello.com/c/gja5TtwF. Please feel free to add thoughts, suggestions, and your vote for priority.

Thanks for the information,
Carl

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Carl,

Thanks for your answer.
I need a tool to visualize a phyloxml file (like phyloviz). No need for saving or publishing, only to open the phyloxml file with a visualisator through Galaxy. It is not possible ?

Visualization, and also workflow, in anonymous mode would be useful to us in other cases in the future, typically for the reviewers to be able to test submitted tools or pipelines.

Loraine


Le 05/01/2015 15:54, Carl Eberhard a écrit :
Hi, Loraine

At this time there is no way to activate visualizations for anonymous users. The logged-in user data is required by most visualizations for some features to work (e.g. saving visualizations, publishing, etc.). 

In the future, it might be possible to de-couple these systems and provide what your looking for on a case-by-case basis. Which visualization would you want to be available? Trackster, Charts, or a local/custom visualization?


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Loraine Guéguen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'd like to use the visualization in anonymous mode, but the visualize icon on the dataset is not available in anonymous mode (although it works fine when connected).
Is it possible to activate the dataset visualization in anonymous mode ?

Thanks,

Loraine

--
Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/

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-- 
Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/



-- 
Loraine Guéguen

Plateforme ABiMS (Analyses and Bioinformatics for Marine Sciences)
Service Informatique et Bioinformatique
Station Biologique de Roscoff
FR 2424 CNRS UPMC
Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff cedex
tel: <a href="tel:%2B%2B33%20%280%292%2098%2029%2056%2046" value="+33298295646" target="_blank">++33 (0)2 98 29 56 46 (interne : 415)
http://abims.sb-roscoff.fr/
http://www.sb-roscoff.fr/



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